Thursday, October 11, 2007
Enlightenment
Now that you know some background information on Somalia and the context in which this event occurred, how do you feel about our (US) role in generating this situation and the overall outcome? Can you think of other events that have occurred in the world where our foreign policy is the direct cause of violence and instability?
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Well I don't feel good about our role as the US in Somalia. But things happen, and as we might be doing some bad things we're doing some good things.
I believe that the US shouldn't of just ran in there trying to help the Somalians. When people shoot at you it usually means they don't want you around.
i thing that the us role in somalia is not as afetive as it could be. thare not going to kill all the rebels and fighting a entire city is almost imposable. if the peaple arent wiling to change then thay wont.
The US went in with good intentions but, obviously they didnt want our help. So instead of trying to continue to help them, I think the Rangers should just leave as soon as they get the chance.
IMHO, I believe that the United States needs to stay out of a confrontation for once. The US forced their way into every major AND minor problem in the world, even if they are not remotely affected by its collateral damage. We need to stop being the "Mommy" of the world, and let the "children" fight it out. In this world, only the strongest survive...
America should not be involved in other countries problems, especially when they do not even affect us. I am sure the country could eventually figure it out, just like we did. A similar situation is the one currently in Iraq.
The Americans should not have intervened, they should have left the somalians to sort out there problems by themselves.
I believe that we had the right idea coming in to intervene and help but sometimes the right idea can go terribly wrong if you don't have perfect planning and if the people you are trying to help aren't willing, so in this situation they didn't want our help and it didn't "help" them either.
The US entering Somalia only creates more of a sticky situation on our hands that we don't really want to deal with. The Somaliams didn't seem to like it either.
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I believe that the United States shouldn't have gotten themselves involved in this situation. Somalia doesn't need others getting involved with their issues. The same situation that relates to now is the issues in Iraq.
I would say the Americans being in Somalia was a poor choice. The outcome was horrific. Either they shouldn't have entered at all...or they should have had a better plan and been more prepared. I think another example could be the U.S. going into Iraq, since they definitely do not want us there, but I do believe we are better prepared than we were in Somalia.
I think the U.S. could have had a more affective influence on Somolia, but it was unsuccessful. I think the U.S. should have focused more on strengthening their government and getting a strong leader to take over.
i think that the us should have dealt with some of the minor issues. becuase now it is just killing themselves and other innocent people. i thnk that the vietnam war is kinda similair to this conflict.
I really don't think the US should have been in Somalia with the lack of information they had. If they were going to go in, they really should have gotten more information. Iraq is a very similar situation at the very moment.
I think that some times the U.S. should keep its nose in its own buissness, and I think that the time in this book is one of those times. Even though we were trying to keep the peace in the world, I think we could have let them figure this one out on their own. This is kind of like Nam. We maybe didnt need to be there, but we were defending the world from comunism, and I think that is good.
I believe that the US had very good intentions of helping Somalia; but it didn't turn out the way they thought it would. When the Somalians started shooting at the US, thats when we should have realized they didn't want us there and we should have left. The Iraq war is very similar to the situation in Somalia; but we are better prepared for Iraq.
As everyone else has already stated... I also believe that the U.S. had good intentions but things just didn't turn out the way we expected. Although we did have good intentions I do not agree with the decision to just march into someone elses country and impose our will. I agree with Zach Kruchoski when he said that we need to stop being the "mommy" of the world.
I can most definently see where the US is coming from in taking part in this war. What I don't understand is why the somali people are fighting the American troops?! We were only trying to get rid of the leader Aidid so that the somali people don't starve and they can be ruled by a more generous leader, right? Why didn't they just give Audid over so they could live a better life? On the other hand I see where the Somali people just want the US out of their land. From the somalis point of view the outcome is going very nicely considering that they have shot down three of the US helicopters. According to the US they are not doing so good. From my point of view it seems like there are too many casualties for the US to stay and keep fighting.
To be honest if you are implying about the war today when asking your question, I would have to say I have no idea. I don't keep up on what's happening in our world today...and if its about a war in the past then apparently I wasn't paying attention in my history classes all these years because I have no idea! And I am telling the truth! If I could relate I would!
as i was reading the other comments, i think that we all agree the US had no buisness entering somalia. what the US thought was going to be a quick, easy mission, took a turn for the worse. their plan totally back fired on them. the damage it did to our US troops outweighs any good that could have come out of it for somalia.
The US had a good idea to enter but it didn't turn out the way we wanted. I think we should let other countrys solve there own problems enless it directly effects us.
Even though i don't have the book, it is pretty clear that everyone agrees that the US had very good intentions of entering into Somalia; but it didn't turn out the way they thought it would. So when the Somalians started shooting towards the US, it should of been clear thats when we should have realized they didn't want us there and we should have left.
I dont think that the U.S should get involved in other countries problems. We focus to much on theirs instead of fixing ours. The Samalians could of figured it out on there own without the U.S interfering.
i dont think that the US should enter Somalia. because the situatoin in Somalia doesnt involve the US so were just going to be opening a stituation for us.
i dont believe entering somalia was a good idea just like entering iraq...its bad ideas with good intention, our military should really rethink its tactics...
i think we never should have been over there. we have our own problems over here. the samalis were dangerous and we just strolled in not realizing the danger. i still dont realy know why we did what we did. samalia was doin there thing.
I don't think that the US should have intervened the way we did. I think it's fine if we want to feed starving people, but I think we acted the wrong way. I don't think we should have gone after Aidid the way we did, because it only made things worse, and the Somalian people were hiding him and shooting at us, so if they didn't want our help I think we should have just left them alone. The situation they were facing in Somalia reminds me of what is now happening in Iraq.
I think our role in Somalia is the same as our role in Iraq right now. We are trying to help but at the same time we are just causing more conflict between us and the people we are trying to help
I believe the U.S. should help other countries, but only when they want our help. Obviously Samolia didnt want our help and we still tried. Like today in Iraq they dont want us there. They dont want us there so bad that they'll kill themselves to get us out. I say help when people want us to help.
Sione says violence is not the answer:D.....i believe that the situation in Somalia is mostly our fault.I think we needed to make things better and left them alone. If someone did me wrong i would'nt want them around me either....let the UN milita to do the rest of the durty work...! ;)
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I think we never should have entered somalia. I feel like we weren't prepared for the fight at hand. so far in the book we have lost some men, sure we completed the mission, but was it worth it?
America has a tendency to intervene when we shouldn't. We intervened in Somalia causing a number of unnecessary casualties and we intervened in Iraq resulting in more casualties. There are times, such as in the World Wars that it's beneficial to get involved, however in some cases such as Somalia and Iraq, it's best that we keeps to ourselves.
I think we should have been there. They needed help period end of story.
Now, the way we went in wasnt the best. We didnt have That great of intelligence. WE had the right fire power and men but all of it amounts to three toddlers with one peeshooter with out intelligence.
Our foriegn policy to help people wasnt used right back in the day...Of vietnam.
Im right...Get out of my face.
i believe that the U.S. should not have just run in there guns blazing they should have thought it out more.
the somalis only started shooting when they felt threatened.
i believe that U.S. should not interfer unless a country asks for help because it just makes things worse rather than help
I Think that the U.S. should'nt of gotten involve. The reason why I think that is because it was'nt their problem and the Somalians did'nt want any help, the U.S. still went to go help them.
@ Stevie Deats: "What I don't understand is why the somali people are fighting the American troops?!"
I will answer your question with a question.
How would you like it if a foreign government invaded the USA and tried to impose their system of government on you?
My personal opinion is if the US has nothing to do with what is happening in the fighting countries then they should just leave it alone. Let the fighting countries fight for themselves. To me it is just a waste of time, money, and people. Why lose so much when we could really gain more.
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I believe we had the right idea and reasons to go into Somalia to try and help the situations there, but sometimes "the right idea" can go terrible wrong. Especially if the US did not have the perfect planning to carry out the missions successfully and also it is very hard to help someone when they seem to not want your help at all, let alone have you in their country. I think the US should have just stayed out of Somalia because we really had no business getting involved in the first place.
I think that the US had good reason to enter Somalia, but that when they were risisted, they should have tooken the hint and left. They should have let Somalia deal with their problems on their own.
I agree with Zach K.America has been involved with so many forgein matters its insane.We need to stay out of their buisness before we get into something we dont need to be in....Oh wait,we're in Irag nevermind.But seriously we(U.S.) need to stay out of other countries petty buisness.
The United States, in a respect, holds an undesirable position. Being an economically, militarily, and technologically superior nation, it is expected to be the overseer of the many other constituents of the globe. If the U.S. doesn't intervene in a situation, then they're a selfish, inconsiderate group. On the other hand, if the U.S. does intervene, they're obtrusive and destructive. This puts powerful America in quite the moral predicament. Nevertheless, I personally feel that the United States should not have entered Somalia the way they did (guns ablaze), and that we could have chosen a more civilized method of intervention. A perfect example would be the fact that a person can do a lot more harm to another person through the utilization of the legal system then say, breaking their nose. Even though both acts will hurt, the non-physical method will have greater lasting consequences, and will ultimately be more effective in the enacting of change... especially change of such a great degree. As for current foreign policy resulting in major discontent, look no farther than the construction of American democracy in Iraq.
I think the role of the U.S. was good. They wanted to help people have freedom and to not live on poverty. But most of the Somalis didnt want our help and thought we were invading their land.
I'm not pleased by our role in generating this catastrophe only because we failed in almost all aspects of coordination on this mission. Now if we (the US) were more prepared, there never would have been so many casualties on either side of this brawl. This reminds me of a controversial experience we had in North Korea when we trespassed over the 38th parallel.
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So i belive that the united states wanted to help somalia but i dont think they should have invaded them the way they did. when the samies gave them the sign that they wernt welcome was when they should have left.
I dont think that we should of intervened because everything that we have done has just back fired in our face.We thought it was going to be an easy task of being able to go in and then get back out but obviously it didnt happen that way.It is kinda like th whole thing of us and the attck on the world trade center.We go in and we try to make it better and because we are worrying about eveyone else that we dont relize that we have alot of our own problems in the US and that we shouldent be wasting our time in a different country.And nopt just that but we are losing alot our own men fotr some other country that would never even think of coming and helping us if we had any problems.
so i dont think that it was a god idea for us coming in and intervening.
I don't think the U.S. should have gotten involved in Somalia. Not right away at least, the US should have been more prepared to ensure that there would be a limit on the amount of casualties. They also need to confront the issues of their own and not just jump in a nother country.
This is what happens when the us cunducts a police action. People get mad and say they were better off with out us. The only to end the warlords terror is to captur him with force, but that still makes people die and possibly does not end the war because another will rise in his place. But if we kill him, the threat of death would give fear to any one who wants to be the next war lord. So either way the good and the bad are are going to get hurt. Soif we stay uot or just watch people are going to die. Vietnam is another action that we did, we failed politically because south Vietnam still became communism. But we succeeded in fighting against the North Vietnam Army(NVA). Yet still people hated the our cause even our own people. The people that were against the war in Vietnam should of thought of why we did instead of what we did.
i understand why we would want to help the other country, but if they dont want it i dont think we should be interferring and by interrferring and mean fighting with them...I belive if we just give them the supplies they need thats enuf for us to help instead of invading..
I believe that even though the problem that we were fighting was not our problem, that we were right for being over there. I believe that because by them having their civil war, they were killing thousands and thousands of innocent civilians. I think that the war that we went into in the book, is the same situation as us being Iraq. I think that because we are in Iraq to help their people. And in the book we were in somalia to help their people.
I believe the U.S. had the right intentions about helping Somalia but should of looked more in to it. They should of considered every possibility like how Somalia would take to this how they would reacted and once the knew they didn’t want them there the U.S should of left it alone. No one likes it when people stick there nose where it doesn’t belong. Did The U.S. like it when the Iraqi’s came into our turf where they did not belong?
The Americans should not have intervened,the Somalians obviously did not want our help and if they don't want to change then they wont.
I dont think that the U.S should get involved in other countries problems. We focus to much on theirs instead of fixing ours.like what happend after katrina help didnt arrive till five days after. but in indonesia help arrived after two days the lattest.The Samalians could of figured it out on there own eventiualy,without the U.S interfering.
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Are part in Somalia was to bring peace and somewhat of order. This kind of cause I believe it was time to step up and try and bring somewhat of peace, but what happened here in this book didn’t really bring peace, all it did was stirring up the situation even more. From this film/ book the people don’t seem like they want peace at all sometimes I think that its better to just let things happen until someone finally decides that things should change and they are tired off all the killing. America can only do so much. There are so many times were America all tries to become the peace maker and it makes other countries hate us even more.
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